[cedrik04]

can you help me to id this broken marked mice?, most of my broken mark are in this color...
the first 2 image is one mice but different shot...

can you id this picture 2

 

[moustress]

If that first mousie has a silvery blue color under the orange, he's an argente. If he doesn't he's fawn. The third one looks like a very umbrous yellow.

 

[cedrik04]

is the first picture is different from champagne or cinnamon...
is the third picture is different from aguoti....

 

[moustress]

Yes. Cinnamon meeces have black eyes. Champagne is a pale golden beige with a golden. An agouti is a mix of black, red and grey, very much darker, with no yellow at all.

Genetically, in brief:

A champagne is a pink eyed chocolate: a/a b/b C/* D/* p/p

A cinnamon is a chocolate agouti: A/* b/b

An agouti is: A/* B/* C/* D/* P/*

Your yellow mouse is either a recessive yellow or perhaps some sort of brindled mouse that lacks stripes.

 

[Cait]

The last pic looks like an agouti to me. When they're not selectively bred they do get tan and paler sandy yellow coloured hairs. Mind you, your location may determine whether it can be anything else as the recessive yellow and type of brindle Moustress refers to are not available in the UK.

 

[cedrik04]

@ MouseBreeder
@ moustress

thank you very much for your info, at least now i have an idea of what color it is....

 

[Jack Garcia]

This is a minor point, but cinnamon mice don't technically have black eyes. The allele that dilutes a mouse's fur to brown also dilutes the eyes to brown, usually dark but sometimes between a dark shade and dark ruby. It's a very subtle difference though, and most groups use the phrase "eyes black" to include the dark brown of a chocolate or cinnamon mouse.

 

[moustress]

Thanks, Jack.

Mousebreeder, I know that exposure to certain chemicals can also cause an agouti to look like a yellow with ticking.

 

[Cait]

I know that exposure to certain chemicals can also cause an agouti to look like a yellow with ticking.

That doesn't sound good!

 

[WillowDragon]

There is a variety called Lemon Agouti on finnmouse, i'm sure of it... the pics i saw kinda look like that.

Unless i'm dreaming that of course... lol

Willow xx

 

[Jack Garcia]

There is a variety called Lemon Agouti on finnmouse, i'm sure of it... the pics i saw kinda look like that.

Unless i'm dreaming that of course... lol

Willow xx

I had forgotten about that. You're thinking of c^i, intense chinchilla:

http://hiiret.fi/eng/breeding/genetics/c-i.html