[mousemad]

Hi, I know this may be a long shot but i have fallen in love
I am really interested in breeding Sable mice, only one problem :!:
I don't have any!!!!
If anyone has any or knows of anyone who may, please could you help me

I wait expectantly, many thanks x

 

[Rhasputin]

Move to Virginia!
I'm working on some sables right now. :lol:

Good luck finding some on your side of the pond!

 

[mousemad]

Are they as hard as people make out?

 

[Rhasputin]

I really don't know yet. Mine were a fluke that came out of some satin brindle experiments. I got a pair of them, they're pretty dark, and since it's in the US, not very red, but they're a start!

I'll have to see what comes from their breeding together.
And if I ever intend on getting any where with them, they'll need a red out-cross. . .

 

[mousemad]

Wow! well put a couple in the post would you :lol: :lol:

 

[Rhasputin]

As soon as I can get a camera to use, I will.

 

[SarahY]

I don't think you'll find anyone breeding sables, but to make them yourself you need reds and black tans. In England sable is genetically a red tan (Ay/at). I could point you to a couple of people with nice reds, but I don't know any black tan breeders personally.

They are difficult to breed for showing because they are prone to a lot of faults, more than self or tan mice, and you need to keep a fairly big stud if you are showing them because you can guarantee 95% of them will have some kind of moult mark when show day comes. Also, because of the red gene, they are prone to being obese and won't breed, so they have a short show life and you need to breed them younger than most other varieties. If you're not worried about showing then they're no more difficult than anything else!

There's some information on breeding sable here:
http://hiiret.fi/eng/breeding/varieties/sable.html

Here's one I had, bred by Humbug Stud:

He was beautiful, I am very fond of sable.

Sarah xxx

 

[Rhasputin]

Nice sable!
Mine need a lot of work. It's hard to get a mouse to be red, here in the US. :?
Mine are so dark. They're also satins, which actually makes their coats look better, I think.

 

[mousemad]

Man i love sables
Thanks for the info Sarah Y, I would love to get hold of some good reds so please point me in the right direcion
What counts as a fairly big stud as far as numbers of bucks and does?
By the way I am not desperate to get sables on the show bench but i figure if i'm going to spend a lot of my time in the mouse shed looking at mice day after day then i might as well breed something i love the look of!!!! :lol:

As for Rhasputin, i jokingly meant literally post me a couple :lol: :lol:

 

[Rhasputin]

Oh! Haha! :lol:

 

[bexinthecity]

I have cinamon browns. But don't think I've got any sables though. I don't think I've seen any sables tbh.

 

[mousemad]

OOOOH cinamon sounds nice, i bet you are miles away from me tho?

 

[bexinthecity]

I am in Surrey if thats any good to you

 

[mousemad]

I am crap at geography, so where in relation to london is surrey?

 

[bexinthecity]

Well I think I am about 37 miles from Central London. Surrey I believe is the county next to London. If you check out my pictures in the current litter forum to see if you like the mice. I have some more inventory style photos to come of each mouse in my hand.

 

[mousemad]

Arggggggggghhhhhhh, those babies are so cute xx
How come they are cinnamon? Are they not agouti? and whats the diference?

 

[bexinthecity]

Well I thought they were agouti - but someone mentioned them as cinnamon. I thought you should look at the pictures in case I was wrong you see.

 

[mousemad]

Hm i don't know i am very new to the genetics thing maybe someone who knows better can tell us?

 

[bexinthecity]

Yeah I am pretty new to it too haha.

 

[mousemad]

OK so calling all genetics experts please could you let us newbies know i the mouse in the first pic is agouti or cinamon?
I ask because i have a few babies that look like that at the mo, and it is soooooo pretty