[Wight Isle Stud]

1.Mice will be exhibited as a photograph, on a piece of plain white paper. And a date shall be clearly marked on the piece of paper.
2.Four Photgraphs will be taken of each mouse, One Under, one dorsal, and one left and one right side.
3. A Judge will be appointed from the United Kingdom,and the United States.
4. Appointed judges will be judges in their own organisations,and be conversant with foreign standards.
5. Should judges be unable to agree, a reserve judge shall be appointed. His/Her decision shall be final.
6. An exhibitor may only exhibit the same mouse a maximum of three times ever.
7.Classes will be u/8, adult.
8. Schedule. --------(under research).

Further details to Follow. COMMENTS PLEASE.

 

[Rhasputin]

Amazing idea!

Great way to bring the mouse comunity together. Why only marked varieties?
Also, people's photography skills may play a part in whether or not they do well in this. So not sure how you'll work that out.

 

[Wight Isle Stud]

It wll come down to honesty that one. Please keep comments coming as there is a lot I have thought about but there will lots that I havent.

 

[WillowDragon]

Taking a pic of the under may be difficult.

And personally I think this sucks, because I don't have a marked variety yet, as noone has brokens ready til next year and I think I should steal some of yours Gary! Not fair, I want to play!

 

[Wight Isle Stud]

I think this is gonna grow and grow, Possibly everything may be smoothed out by the time you get your brokens ! yes unders will be tricky, but can be done

 

[Rhasputin]

I'm interested, why only marked mice?

 

[WillowDragon]

Easier to judge through photo's I imagine, as markings are the most important part of a marked mouse, not really colour.

Selfs would be hard to judge through photo's as colour can be different on every screen and through every camera.

W xx

 

[SarahY]

I think I can see why. It'd be impossible to tell how good a self is from a photograph and the lighing, flash etc would effect the colour. Satins would be even worse! Markings have to be a certain, exact way, which would come over in a photograph much more easily, and an excellently marked mouse with poorer type would probably win over selfs at an actual show anyway.

I think it's a great idea Gary. The Yorkshire Rat Club ran a photo competition a while ago when the rat fancy was suffering from a nasty virus circulating shows. Shows were cancelled for a while until it died down, so in the mean time the YRC got their members to send photos to be judged. It was very popular.

I just hope that one dishonest person with Photoshop doesn't ruin it for everyone else.

Sarah xxx

 

[WillowDragon]

I would always be willing to be a 'spot checker' for fiddled with photo's... as a regular user of photoshop, I can usually spot something that has been maniped, and i'm good at trawling through Google to make sure an image hasn't been stolen!

W xx

 

[SarahY]

Yeah, me too! My work colleague and I used to spend hours trawling through photographs of paranormal phenomena to rule out ones that had been faked! God, that makes me sound so sad... :lol: :lol:

ETA: Although I shall probably enter, in which case I can't do any checking.

Sarah xxx

 

[Jack Garcia]

Which standards will we use? There are different standards in different countries and clubs. I think an online competition of marked mice is an excellent idea! I've participated before in virtual shows and they do have their own challenges but they can be fun.

In the US, we do not have some of your standardized marked varieties, like rumpwhite. In the UK, you do not have some of our standardized marked varieties, like tricolor or broken brindle. I wonder how that would be resolved.

 

[WillowDragon]

Hmm... good point Sarah, photo checkers would have to be rotated then.

And I will happily volunteer my arty farty skills to draw some 'virtual' ribbons and place cards! hehee

 

[WNTMousery]

Isn't a white background a poor choice considering the mice will have white markings?

Also, how do you suggest getting a good photo of the underside?

The East Coast Mouse Association has had quite a few virtual shows in the past. We allowed all types of mice and changed our scoring to reflect the fact that you cannot judge color via the computer.The judging was based mostly on type.

 

[Wight Isle Stud]

differing standards across the world can be addressed by the judges making themselves famliliar with the relevant standard, in my eyes no different to judging a show with breeds entered that you do not keep. Please keep the comments coming,lots of brains on it will help to iron out problems before they arise. I think Also need to approach DOM for technical concerns. My early thoughts on photgraphing the underside will be to delegate that problem to jack. I would hold base of tail, allow mouse to grip tip of pencil, and click. can you have a play jack?

 

[Seawatch Stud]

All good and fun. I think we should all try and remember its fun dont you?. If we are already talking about people cheating and entering false pics etc it wont be fun for long. Also try and keep it as simple as possible for the same reasons.

 

[CatWoman]

Photographing the underside can be accomplished by putting the mouse on a piece of glass. If you use aquariums for housing, you could put the mouse in an empty one and take the photo from underneath. Or, just about everyone has a photo hanging in their house that can be removed from the frame to "borrow" the glass.

 

[The secret garden]

I think this is a great idea!
Well thought out Gary

 

[SarahC]

me to,something new.

 

[WNTMousery]

Isn't a white background a poor choice considering the mice will have white markings?

Also, how do you suggest getting a good photo of the underside?

The East Coast Mouse Association has had quite a few virtual shows in the past. We allowed all types of mice and changed our scoring to reflect the fact that you cannot judge color via the computer.The judging was based mostly on type.

Did you miss my reply?

With my 2nd question, I wasn't very clear. I meant how do you suggest getting a good photo of the underside on a white background?

 

[SarahY]

how do you suggest getting a good photo of the underside on a white background?

That's easy, I've done it many times! Stick a piece of white paper on the wall and hold the mouse by its tail in front of it. It takes a few goes to get a good picture, but it's easy enough

Sarah xxx