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None of my does have any problems, they are normal mice just with a brindle pattern. I think maybe the article was referring to the brindle bucks when it mentioned the shaking etc? The does certainly don't do that whether they're brindle or self, nor do they clasp their legs together rather than splay them out like other mice.
 

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I'm looking forward to them, and I am no stranger to hard varieties and 'lethal' genes. I am always up for increasing numbers!

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the brindle does and all the non brindles in the litters are perfectly normal and healthy nothing at all to cause a problem.It is only the brindle bucks that are non viable.From personal experience I consider it to be cruel to try and grow the bucks on.Sometimes,understandebly we have to find these things out for ourselves to be convinced.All the brindle bucks are a shiny white regardless of the parents colour.I don't know the reasons.Perhaps mousebreeder knows?I have removed two today,white with black eyes from a litter of red x red brindle.Of the remaining litter there are two agouti brindles one red brindle and one fawn brindle,happy days :p
 

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in breeding dal X dal cavies the double up of the dal gene, much like a the male brindles has the same effect. In cavies the babies with deformaties are call anothalmic or microthalmic whites (or something with similar names, tis hard to spell!). theyre born with pink eyes, if they have any at all, and are white. deformaties include no teeth, no organs ect, most die without having to cull (and this type of thing being born is the only reason a cavy breeder would cull, as cavies are born fully developed)
this is avoided in cavies by using selfs though. However i know you cant get over it that easy in mice since its sex linked, but maybe one day a buck will be born without this lethal outcome? never know when mutations will appear in the genes. but untill then, what has to be done, has to be done!!

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omg I have never seen such beautiful brindles! I didn't think they could have markings like that!
 

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Oh wow. Well I want to go over there and take some back xD
 

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well I have them noooow! and they are sooooo stunning. Jan was very generous and actually gave me 3 rather than 2! One has gone in with my argente buck, Cameo, and she's looking round now after 2 weeks so looks like I'll have my first brindle litter in a week or so. The other two will go in with him soon too. I idealy didn't want them all to go in with the same buck, but I don't have any other suitable! Cameo will do for now though, I'll try get hold of some more bucks at London champs maybe :)

pic of the 3rd doe...


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