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Right, this might be long so I apologise in advance but I thought it would help to write everything down!

When I got my male he had wounds from fighting with his previous cage mate. His face ones were still open but the big ones on his side were healing fine.

Got him home, moved him onto carefresh (he was on something that looked like gravel :? ) his face ones healed but the big ones opened up again and got infected.

Took him to the vets and he had a dose of spot on (he had more in the weeks after to finish the course which did help stop him scratching as much) and they gave us baytril. While he was having the baytril he stayed in the part of his cage that only has fleece and started healing again but when he went back onto the carefresh it all flared up again!

I got rid of the carefresh and took him back to the vets. They gave more baytril and intrasite gel. He HATED the gel as did we, it wouldn't spread properly and made him scratch like mad. We stopped using it and used sudocream instead which he didn't mind as much.

We've now stopped that and he's finished the baytil, the problem is he's still healing and it's taking ages. There's no infection and it definitely is healing, he has fur growing back and everything but he still scratches a little which messes up the process again, I know once they start it's very hard for them to stop.

The smaller wound was almost gone but over one night he must have had a mad scratching spree as when I woke up it was open again and had gotten bigger!

What I want to know is if there's anything I can do to help him heal faster that doesn't involve putting anything on the wound as even though he liked the sudocream it still made him scratch more than leaving him alone does.

I bought some of those tesco anti allergy tablets with loratadine but I'm not sure how to use them. I thought they would be worth a try to try and stop the scratching even if it only stops a little bit more of it. He weighs about 33g.

Thanks in advance. I've probably missed something out.. if there's anything else you need to know just ask!
 

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The dose of loratidine is 1/3 tablet daily for that size of mouse, maybe you could grind it up and put it in a grape or something? Ask zany_toon, she always manages to medicate her meeces!
 

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Thanks! Trouble is he doesn't like "wet" foods. I've given him fruit, veggies, chicken, porridge etc and he doesn't eat any of them :?
He loves anything dry though so I could mix it with water, let some bread soak it up then let that dry out a bit and give it to him that way.
 

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I grind tablets and put it on a digestive biscuit :D Out of all the mice I've had to medicate (and Kallan will tell you there have been more than a few) only one refused to take his meds that way and he was a really jumpy little boy that hadn't been handled at all and I'd only had him one day. If you put a tiny drop of water on the biscuit so that it goes slightly soggy then crush the tablet on top it will stop any of it falling off. If he won't eat the soggy biscuit you can still put use it dry but put the crushed tablets on the broken side of the biscuit so that it has something to hold it in place. Try to make the bit of biscuit as small as possible to make sure that he eats it all in one go to get the benefit of his meds! My mice see biscuit as the perks of falling ill. Failing that a little dab of jam or honey seems to work with mine as well.
 

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Brilliant thanks! Will start him on it today. I know he'll probably never completely stop scratching but hopefully the tablets will cut it down a bit more. He's a lovely happy boy I just wish he'd heal quicker!
 

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Let me know if it works, and I've got my fingers crossed that he heals soon x x
 

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Will do and thanks x

I keep trying to get pics so I have proof it's getting better and it's not just me thinking it but he's very camera shy :lol:
 

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Thing is as long as you can see a difference that's all that counts!! It's really hard to break the habit of scratching. The only way I could get two of my boys to stop scratching was to swap their cages (they'd only been in them for about 10 minutes after cleaning so I figured it was worth a try) so that they were to busy nosing around and trying to figure out where the "intruder" was to bother with scratching for a while :lol:
 

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For chronic scratchers I use liquid diphenhydramine (generic name for Benadryl), the red stuff made for dosing children, 1 tsp/8 oz. water, right in the water bottle. I've kept meees on this for a couple of months at a time, and it sorks prettty well with no side effects that I've noticed.
 

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Also be aware that scratching can become obsessive... so even when things have cleared up, every now and again old wounds will reopen simpley because the mouse has become so used to scratching that it never stops.
I believe hamsters are quite known for this behavior too.

W xx
 

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zany_toon said:
they were to busy nosing around and trying to figure out where the "intruder" was to bother with scratching for a while :lol:
:lol: invaders! Jaq has some treat sticks, a healthy plant thingy one (I'm so technical haha) and then a "naughty" one which keep him busy most of the time, he's quite a slow eater too which helps! I've only got the one male at the moment, maybe I could use this as an excuse to get another so I can keep them busy like yours? ;)

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For chronic scratchers I use liquid diphenhydramine (generic name for Benadryl), the red stuff made for dosing children, 1 tsp/8 oz. water, right in the water bottle. I've kept meees on this for a couple of months at a time, and it sorks prettty well with no side effects that I've noticed.
Thanks for that. Will get some of that too in case the tablets don't help.

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Also be aware that scratching can become obsessive... so even when things have cleared up, every now and again old wounds will reopen simpley because the mouse has become so used to scratching that it never stops.
I believe hamsters are quite known for this behavior too.

W xx
Yep it does seem to be habit now. Silly boy. At least it's not like it was, he looked like he was trying to scratch all his skin off at one point!
I've not seen it before in the hams but this is the first time I've had a rodent allergic to a bedding too! Seems I've been quite lucky.

This is the last pic I took of him, I feel so bad seeing him like it but he doesn't seem to care. He moves around fine, eats like a pig all be it a slow one lol and is a lovely friendly boy.
 

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I've only got the one male at the moment, maybe I could use this as an excuse to get another so I can keep them busy like yours? ;)
Sounds like a plan if you ask me!! :lol: Or if you have some girls around swap him into their cages - I'm sure that will please him no end :lol:

I've had a mouse allergic to bedding as well and ended up having to use an old hand towel as bedding for him. Needless to say we went through a lot of towels when he discovered that he could make a hole in it and hide under the towel :p

Poor little guy! It looks painful and almost as bad as poor marx was :( I hope he's okay
 

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Ewww no not a smelly boy in their cage! :lol:

Jaq wraps himself in the fleece, he looks like an odd version of a sausage in bacon! :p

I know they don't show pain much but he was miserable when it was at its worst, he's nothing like that any more so hopefully it isn't too bad!
 

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*returning the favour for Jaq* :gwavec Get well soon :gwavec Get well soon!!!
 

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:D he thanks you very much!

I got everything ready last night then popped a tablet out and realised I have no idea how to cut it best! Normally we just use a knife down the middle but we've never needed anything in thirds before, and they're tiny.

So zany, *asks all creme egg advert way* how do you cut yours?! :p
 

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I asked my vet for a pill cutter :D They were really nice and gave it to me for free when I spent 10 minutes talking about how concerned I was that my animals get the right dose...:lol: I think they were desperate to get rid of me!!
 

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LOL zany! :p

You can also grind it into a powder and split the powder three ways. Mind you don't sneeze though!
 

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:lol: zany. Thanks, I think that's one of the few things we don't have though! Will have to get one.

Thanks Kallan, will do it that way for now (or all the time, will see which works out best) Haha, maybe I wont do it then, have been sneezing a bit lately. It seems I'm not so happy with carefresh either! :x
 

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Have been having a look around for liquids in case the tablets don't work or I totally stuff up the whole getting it into 1/3 :lol: and I can't find anything with diphenhydramine in.
All the benadryl I've looked at has cetirizine hydrochloride as does just about everything else that doesn't have loratadine in while piriton has chlorphenamine maleate.

:? is there actually any difference between any of them?
 
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