[SarahC]

the only good outcross for them are champagne tans and not to often.The first generation will take a step backwards but the next will produce fawns with superior type and hopefully one or two with a tan belly.Fawn tans are the best fawns,if that makes sense.

 

[SarahC]

The thing with fawns,regardless of any lethal genes is to breed young.If you wait til after 12 weeks you'll struggle to get pregnancies and will be very unlikely to have large litters or multiple litters from one doe.I think they are a variety that does well being left in with the buck. The lethal gene reduces litter size by 25 % but I don't have any problems breeding them.Youth is the key.Breed early and don't keep does after two litters,they rarely produce again.The tan outcross isn't essential for breeding,just improves type and produces winners for showing.

 

[SarahC]

just to add,you can't avoid the lethal gene as far as I know it's part and parcel of the red group.

 

[SarahC]

8 or 9 weeks yes.Or as soon as they start to look plumpish,obesity is the problem.The very fat ones make good companions for single bucks,producing no babies or litters of one.It makes them hard to show as well.I had some nice ones that could have done well at Stafford,having missed that they are now looking rotund and will have to go with a buck.The satin fawns are very attractive.

 

[SarahC]

I like the fat bottomed girls as well,even the alarming tennis balls with the pinheads.To answer your question willow,yes show them early and then some females after a couple of litters retain a reasonable figure and can be shown as adults.I've done quite well with them but they aren't the most show friendly variety.I don't know what umbrous means :shock: :?: have to reach for the dictionary.

 

[SarahC]

umbrous is not in my dictionary :!:

 

[SarahC]

thanks,I'll have a look but most likely won't absorb :roll:

 

[SarahC]

thanks for the explanation.Tans over here and probably on your side also have almost perfectly furred bellies unlike selfs which have the proverbial line under.One fault thats hard to combat is small eyes.I've used self chams to try to improve this but the big eyes are only passed to the resulting paler fawns.Better the fawn colour,smaller the eyes and you end up back at square one.

 

[SarahC]

I'd be very interested in any ideas to combat the small eyes while retaining the deep orange .