[Erica08]

I think this little doe is a champagne but wanted a few more opinions. Also how would you tell if a mouse is a banded or a dutch? My other doe has a nice wide band and this doe has a very small band compared to her so just wondered if you can tell if she is banded or dutch.

this is my chocolate doe that I believe is a dutch for band comparison I guess

 

[Erica08]

I hope this is a little clearer image of the champagne doe

 

[ian]

Hi,

It could be a champagne, the pictures arent too clear, it could also be a dove although my guess form the pics would be champagne. Just seen the new pic you put up and the colour still isnt 100% clear to me, doves normally have a pale grey tint and champagnes normally have a pinky/yellow tint. The problem may be that as a pet shop mouse the colour wont have been bred for specifically so the colour sint always very distinct.

I dont know much about dutch but I imagine what you have is either a poorly marked banded or something I've vaguely heard of called a belted. Being pet shop mice they could have any number of recognised variety genes at work.

 

[Erica08]

do doves have pink eyes because she does and I didn't think that dove did but I could be mixing thing up.

 

[SarahC]

doves do have pink eyes,your mouse looks closer to cham than dove though.It isn't a dutch .Even when mismarked it is clear if a mouse is dutch .

 

[ian]

There are different names in the US, in the UK a dove is a pink eyed black. But I agree with Sarah it does look like a champagne (pink eyed chocolate)

 

[SarahC]

oh sorry,I was forgetting differences in standards applying to location.

 

[moustress]

I'd guess that she's a very deep champagne. A little darker than the standard you guys have over there, but I prefer the color like this, but no darker; then I'd call it dove (lilac). Hard to pin down unless you know how it was bred.

 

[Jack Garcia]

In some parts of the US, "dove" means pink-eyed black (a/a p/p), just like in the UK. Just to confuse matters.

The chocolate with white spots could turn out to be a case of regular recessive white spotting (s/s) that just happened to fall that way.

 

[Erica08]

so geneticly she is most likely to be either pink eyed black aka dove a/a B/* p/p or pink eyed chocolate aka champagne a/a b/b p/p ? So if I breed her to my chocolate buck and she is champagne I could get chocolates but if she is dove I could end up with blacks.

 

[ian]

Yes thats right, if she is a champagne and you cross her with the chocolate buck all of the babies will be chocolate.