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 Post subject: Amtma mousey Breeding Project [Large Images]
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 3:15 am 
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Hi Everyone!
My name is Kan. My goal as a novice breeder is to improve the physical qualities of my Seal Point Siamese mice and strive for show quality. I use a basic strategy of vigilant line-breeding between Self Black and Seal Point Siamese. I began this strain as my first breeding project on December 17, 2014, in which I bred my founding pair, a Broken-marked Brindle buck and Blue Rex doe (Image 1 & 2).
Obviously, I started with pet shop mice that I acquired from a local store. Please understand that these mice are not nearly show quality or even close. After my 3rd generation, I out-cross my strain to a Seal Point Siamese buck (Image 3).

I am approximately on my 7th generation and very pleased with my current results. My primary focus is to improve proper type, specifically ears, body, and head shape. Mean while, gradually developing shading and coloring within the Seal Point Siamese mice. My immediate objective is to improve the darkening of feet within my Seal Point Siamese, in which I am line breeding to an alternative doe outside my strain (Image 4 & 5). After proper quality of coloring and shading has been established, I will begin focusing on size and other minor improvements, such as my clearly lacking tails.

I have included images of my current mice. All mice shown have been owned or bred by me. Enjoy!


Image 1: Blue Rex doe
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Image 2: Broken-marked Brindle buck
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Image 3: Siamese Outcross buck
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Image 4: Siamese doe with improved points
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Image 5: Siamese doe with improved points
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 Post subject: Re: Kan's S & B Breeding Project
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 8:34 pm 
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Image 6: Tank of does
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Image 7: Tank of males
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Image 8: Current nursing does
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Image 9: Current breeding does
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 Post subject: Re: Kan's S & B Breeding Project
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:53 pm 
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Image 11: Doe with good type
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Image 12: Current breeding 1 buck 2 does
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Image 13: Current breeding 1 buck 5 does
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 Post subject: Re: Kan's S & B Breeding Project
PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 11:56 pm 
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Image 14: Future breeding does
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Image 15: Future breeding does
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Image 16: Current pups 1 buck 2 does
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 Post subject: Re: Kan's S & B Breeding Project [Large Images]
PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2016 4:51 am 
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Update May 22, 2016:

I expanded the breeding quantity within the most recent generation (generation 4). I have implemented 3 breeding groups, as listed below. I will begin the development of 3 subgroups within my strain to help battle immunodeficiency and improve genetic diversity.
aa ch/ch = Siamese
aa C/ch = Black carrying Siamese
aa C/* = Black, possibly carrying Siamese
aa C/C = Homozygous Black

Generation 4 Breeding groups:

Murphy (aa ch/ch)- Breeding to 4 (aa C/*) does

Midnight (aa C/C)- Breeding to 2 (aa ch/ch) does

Boot (aa C/*)- Breeding to 2 (aa C/*)

Results: Midnight's litter will result in 100% Black carrying Siamese, thus his children will become the founding individuals of Strain A2. The pups from both Murphy and Boot, the Blacks will become Strain B1, and the Siamese will become Strain A1. From here forward, the subgroups as stated below will be implemented.

Future Breeding Plan for Generation 5:
As stated before, my Siamese strain is diminished of color and shading, specifically white feet. In result, I have bred my overall darkest buck, Midnight (aa C/C), to my best shaded Siamese doe (aa ch/ch). This breeding combination will result in 100% Black carrying Siamese mice (aa C/ch). I will select the best buck of this litter and breed to my current 7 Siamese virgin does, who are the youngest generation of Generation 4. Hopefully, this will reestablish a proper quality of mice, in which I will continue developing my subgroups from these 7 litters.



Subgroups:

Subgroup A1
Priority:
-Seal Point Siamese
-Improved Siamese Shading
Genotype Population:
-ch/ch


Subgroup A2
Priority:
-Black Carrying Siamese
-Best Type
Genotype Population:
-C/ch


Subroup B1
Priority:
-Self Black
-Darkest Black Color
Genotype Population:
-C/C
-C/ch




Long Term Breeding Cycle:
b = Buck
d = Doe

A1b + A2d = A1 & A2 (General improvement) - Every Generation
Genotype Results:
-C/ch - 50%
-ch/ch - 50%
A1: Best Siamese buck
A2: Black does with best type


A2b + B1d = B1 (Diversity for B1) - Every 4 Generations
Genotype Results:
-C/C - 50%
-C/ch - 50%
A2: Best Black type buck
B1: All current Black does


B1b + A1d = A2 (Darkening improvement) - Dependent on A1
Genotype Results:
-C/ch - 100%
B1: Darkest Black buck
A1: Siamese does require point and shading impovements.


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 Post subject: Re: Kan's S & B Breeding Project [Large Images]
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 5:46 am 
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Update May 25, 2016:

Midnight and Doe
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 Post subject: Re: Kan's S & B Breeding Project [Large Images]
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2016 5:48 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Kan's S & B Breeding Project [Large Images]
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:34 am 
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Update July 5, 2016:

Since my last update, multiple litters have been born, approximately 150 pups in total.
Murphy the mouse posted above did not develop as I hoped, in result he was replaced by "Murphy New", likely to be his brother or cousin. I am currently focused on improving the shading of and removing white feet among my mice, in which I will then return back to developing type.

Litters are listed in chronological order:
A Black and Siamese doe, father unknown due to accidental breeding. - Babies are grown up
2 Black does bred with Murphy New- Babies are grown up
3 Siamese does bred with Midnight- Babies will be weaned soon
5 Black does bred with Murphy New- Babies will be weaned soon
6 Siamese does bred with Midnight- Babies are approximately 1 week old

Currently, no culling has been needed and no causalities have occurred among the does or babies. Although, the accidental litters are appearing a bit runty. They will not be used within my project. I will be wrapping up the summer breeding and begin decreasing my numbers in preparation of the fall and winter months.

Tomorrow will be the first wave of selecting the keepers and non-keepers. Midnight has been resigned from breeding. He will be rehoused on Thursday along with several of his sons. I will post pictures soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Kan's S & B Breeding Project [Large Images]
PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:43 am 
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Update July 9, 2016:

Another accidental litter...
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A bunch of black bucks that I will be choosing from soon
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Three Siamese females #1
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Three Siamese Females #2
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The future founding buck of my Siberian Generations: Amaranthaus, meaning 'unfading' in Latin
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Black doe doing her thing
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Siamese and black young does
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Different siamese young doe
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Litter #1 from Midnight and Siamese does
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Litter #2 from Midnight and Siamese does
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